Killed a GTi VR6 on the interstate

[HellBilly]

so i was coming home from Best Buy with my 2 friends, both totaling about 350lbs, plus me (250) and i come up along side the Gti. He had 2 passengers as well, both hot chicks ,

i could def tell he wanted to race by the way he reacted to me passing him, he got right on me and followed me. soooo

we finally got to a good long stretch and he pulls up beside me, 70 mph, me in 3rd gear and i hear him go W0T so i hit it. I slowly walk past him, by about 100 i had about 2CL on him. Pretty quick cars those GTi's. We did the same thing about 4 or 5 different times, all the same outcome.

I have a AA tuning GEN2

<3 my M3

[HellBilly]

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[rayray]

nice kill billy, nice wheels as well

[HellBilly]

nice kill billy, nice wheels as well

thanks

[trk]

thanks

hellbilly of devils brigade?

[HellBilly]

hellbilly of devils brigade?

[Matutino]

What drop do you have? Race springs?
BTW Nice kill

[HellBilly]

What drop do you have? Race springs?
BTW Nice kill

lol no idea, all i know is its been dropped in the front with koni suspension. I bought the car from my uncle and he didnt exactly give me every little detail

[o8OneLight8o]

That's sweet dude, I have this guy I work with, with the same car, trying to pull off..."well you know it's the driver dude, any time, any where...." Thanks for the inspiration...Peace killer...

[Grk M Power]

i wish my unclo had a e36 m3

[HellBilly]

That's sweet dude, I have this guy I work with, with the same car, trying to pull off..."well you know it's the driver dude, any time, any where...." Thanks for the inspiration...Peace killer...

haha, tell him his car sucks. And then tell him to run you, any kinda of test, roll on, from a stop, then hand him his ass on a silver platter

[HellBilly]

"i wish my unclo had a e36 m3 "


i was lucky, for sure

[o8OneLight8o]

haha, tell him his car sucks. And then tell him to run you, any kinda of test, roll on, from a stop, then hand him his ass on a silver platter

I told him that already, and he just looked at me with this aire of cluelessness...he's already going through midlife crisis though...I think I should at least let him continue life with his conception of adequecy...man...so many kills (see laws to break), so little time...

[2 8]

you gotta watch out for some VR6's

mine VR6 Jetta is slightly modded and runs 14.3 in the 1/4 and man does it pull hard on the highway.

for sale btw

[95cosmom3]

sweetness, good kill.

[bähnstormer]

awesome run, those vr6's give me nothing by trouble
but why do you weigh 250lbs? are you 6'5"?

the reason i ask is that MANY drivers spend money
on their cars, and forget about themselves...600 bux
for a driving class doesn't seem much if it'll help u push
your tires to thier max limits. same with weight. i believe
every 7lbs lost is like adding one hp? (i *think* that's from
european car's m3 article)

[HellBilly]

6'3" and im pretty muscular.

but yeah i want to take a driving course

[B5BAR]

Any idea if it was a MK3 or MK4?

MK3 has 172 HP stock, and a MK4 (24v) has 200 HP stock. Both are hard to get good gains from unless you give them boost. The current craze in the VW camp is the 1.8t.

A passat which is heavier than a GTI or Jetta can and will do a 14.7 in the 1/4 with a good driver, and only a simple APR, or Garret chip. I have been at import drags and watched MK4 GTI 1.8t's (with only a chip) get 14.5s down the strip. not too shabby for a front wheel drive german car.

I want a 6 Cylinder German car again, (had a VR6) I am after BMW for my fix though, they seem to produce good power from the factory, and can do quite a bit with what they have..

I wish I could have been able to listen to that race.. The VR6 and BMW M engines are my two favorite sounding in the current market.

[HellBilly]

it looked brand new

[B5BAR]

it looked brand new

Err sorry, I just came from a VW forum and well used VW talk..
MK4 is the 4th generation (current).

I forgot an other VR6, the R32, but they are not considered a GTI by VW , they produce 240 HP stock.

You can get me back.. just use some less known BMW acronym speak, I get lost quite fast.. I gotta learn since I intend to buy one.

[HellBilly]

Err sorry, I just came from a VW forum and well used VW talk..
MK4 is the 4th generation (current).

I forgot an other VR6, the R32, but they are not considered a GTI by VW , they produce 240 HP stock.

You can get me back.. just use some less known BMW acronym speak, I get lost quite fast.. I gotta learn since I intend to buy one.

lol oh i know it wasnt a R32, it just looked like a brand new GTi

[Nater]

you gotta watch out for some VR6's

mine VR6 Jetta is slightly modded and runs 14.3 in the 1/4 and man does it pull hard on the highway.

for sale btw

Agreed...and put boost on one and you'll be amazed.

I still am.

Nice kill bro. The stock VR6 is a nice motor...but remember, a "new" gti could still have a 12v vr6 (if it wasn't BRAND NEW).
A year or two back they still made the 174HP mk4 gti...the 200hp (24V vr6) is a nice motor but a bit disappointing (IMO) for having twice as many valves...
I really expected more. But as someone else here said, you gotta put some $$$ into that motor to make it work for you...


Later,

[beamah332is]

Nice kill, billy boy. I race one from time to time. This guy that works next to my job has a black gti vr6. it's hooked up and has superman's "S" decal on the back, nice twin exhaust. I don't know what else he has. On our way home, highway driving, we race up to 120 before hitting twisties. His car has lots of torque. Our low-end seems similiar, but he starts to walk me at the top ranges, but when I'm in higher rpms, I start creeping up again - that was before I was sharked and didn't have a CAI yet. I plan on getting UUC pulleys soon. I also need to install the M50 manifold and get a free flow catback to help gain some hp at the mid and top ranges. I've been leaving a little early lately to go to school... so I haven't raced him lately. I need to run with him again. Will post whenever that happens. Hope he didn't super or turbocharge that beyotch.

[HellBilly]

Agreed...and put boost on one and you'll be amazed.

I still am.

Nice kill bro. The stock VR6 is a nice motor...but remember, a "new" gti could still have a 12v vr6 (if it wasn't BRAND NEW).
A year or two back they still made the 174HP mk4 gti...the 200hp (24V vr6) is a nice motor but a bit disappointing (IMO) for having twice as many valves...
I really expected more. But as someone else here said, you gotta put some $$$ into that motor to make it work for you...


Later,

oh yah, if that thing had a turbo it would of destroyed me, but then again if iiii had a turbo......but we wont go there

[NoName]

Nice kill!
Those vr6 guys think they're so fast..
Especially those corrado guys. (slow)

[tEckniks]

nice kill

[Nater]

oh yah, if that thing had a turbo it would of destroyed me, but then again if iiii had a turbo......but we wont go there

You can go there...I did.
If you had a turbo it's true - you'd be way gone!!!
Later,

[HellBilly]

haha, yep

[DominikM3]

Nice kill!
Those vr6 guys think they're so fast..
Especially those corrado guys. (slow)

Corrado guys? slow? good one


I still think that MK3 is much better then MK4.
If that was MK3 with few bolt ons you would have big time trouble.

[HellBilly]

Corrado guys? slow? good one


I still think that MK3 is much better then MK4.
If that was MK3 with few bolt ons you would have big time trouble.

i dont think if this guy had a few bolt ons i would of been in any trouble

[DominikM3]

I know a guy that pulled 14.1-14.2 in his 98 mk3 with chip, intake, exhaust, 268 cams. Now he got nice turbo in it and runs low 11's

[Ice Rado]

Nice kill!
Those vr6 guys think they're so fast..
Especially those corrado guys. (slow)

hehe...we don't think we know

nah but seriously the corrado vr6 is faster/lighter then the mk3...i ran a 14.4 w/ chip/intake/exhaust (aluminum flywheel, aluminum crank)...spinning in 1st,2nd, and 3rd...w/ cams and tires i'd like to see 13s...they aren't e46 fast but w/ some mods they can definitely hang w/ e36

[Nater]

hehe...we don't think we know

nah but seriously the corrado vr6 is faster/lighter then the mk3...i ran a 14.4 w/ chip/intake/exhaust (aluminum flywheel, aluminum crank)...spinning though 1st,2nd, and 3rd...w/ cams and tires i'd like to see 13s...they aren't e46 fast but w/ some mods they can definitely hang w/ e36

I've got a turbo vr6 and I can't even SPIN through 3rd.
You must have been racing on wet leaves...

I'm not debating the fact that your car is quick, but you aren't spinning through all those gears. Plus, if you were there is no way you'd get a 14.4 spinning your tires in all three gears.

Anyway,
VR6 guys think they are fast in general, yes. I'll agree with that. But for what they are (a vw) they are fast. I don't think any vr6 owner thinks they are faster than an e36 m3...Just b/c they want to race your bimmer doesn't mean they think they are faster, I mean...he could just want to see how much slower he is???

Later,

[Ice Rado]

I've got a turbo vr6 and I can't even SPIN through 3rd.
You must have been racing on wet leaves...

I'm not debating the fact that your car is quick, but you aren't spinning through all those gears. Plus, if you were there is no way you'd get a 14.4 spinning your tires in all three gears.

Anyway,
VR6 guys think they are fast in general, yes. I'll agree with that. But for what they are (a vw) they are fast. I don't think any vr6 owner thinks they are faster than an e36 m3...Just b/c they want to race your bimmer doesn't mean they think they are faster, I mean...he could just want to see how much slower he is???

Later,

*spinning in gear...not spinning THROUGH gears* big difference

i don't really understand it either cuz i know alot of my mk3 friends can't spin 3rd...my friend 'vw thunder' has a s/c vr6 but he has quaife and can't spin em...this has ALWAYS been w/ like no name tires...but i can usually do 3rd w/o much trouble and have already done 4th its not a matter of like i can do it no one else can cuz i've done 3rd in my friends gti vr as well...

just for some info i have a time slip from that day of me running a 14.7 at 89mph...w/ a 2.5 60ft cuz of all the spinning...

anywho...yah i think if i saw an m i'd try to race it not just cuz i thought i was faster only cuz it seems like the only car thats kinda worth racing...its another flat 6 we like to pair up w/...its more fun then anything

[nikocb]

ok....this thread is hilarious....
let me set a few things strait..

The mk4's are significatly heavier than the mk3's. I have a mk3 vr6 gti and have beaten the 172hp and the 200hp mk4s by several car lengths. I've also beaten brand new 330xi's by a couple car lengths too. You probably raced the 172 heavier mk4 gti. My car can't really be called slow when you are comparing it to an e36 m3...the speed difference is not that much.

And about what IceRado said.....yes he did run a 14.4 and yes he did spin in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd.....I have video of him doing so....so if you guys need proof then gimme a couple of days and i can get you some.

if it were a mk3 or corrado vr6 with a few bolt ons...yes...you would have some trouble beating him

[SilverStreak]

nikocb, watch the profanity in the main forums, please...

[nikocb]

nikocb, watch the profanity in the main forums, please...

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haha, whoops...sorry, i'm always in OT

[DominikM3]

wow that is turning into vortex now

[Ice Rado]

wow that is turning into vortex now

well when people diss my car and say i think i'm fast...i like to let them know there are a few out their that can back up that 'thinkin we're fast' statement

[B5BAR]

Remember it's just the internet.. No sence in saying something that can't be proven in text or online..

I make the same mistakes myself.. Besides we are VW drivers on a BMW forum

[Grk M Power]

Remember it's just the internet.. No sence in saying something that can't be proven in text or online..

I make the same mistakes myself.. Besides we are VW drivers on a BMW forum

lol tru tru.. kno ur places, bitchs... lol nahh just joken... my uncle has the v10 toureg.. thing halls ass, dont kno botu a VR6 taken a e36 M tho...??

[Ice Rado]

lol tru tru.. kno ur places, bitchs... lol nahh just joken... my uncle has the v10 toureg.. thing halls ass, dont kno botu a VR6 taken a e36 M tho...??

not saying my cars insane...but if i did race one it'd be all about the driver...the biggest advantage we have is probably weight...where as a corrado only weighs about 2800/2900 w/ driver...and i've got a decent amount of mods done too so it would be close...i'll have to come down to philly one time u take me in the toureg i'll give yah a ride in the rado

[Grk M Power]

not saying my cars insane...but if i did race one it'd be all about the driver...the biggest advantage we have is probably weight...where as a corrado only weighs about 2800/2900 w/ driver...and i've got a decent amount of mods done too so it would be close...i'll have to come down to philly one time u take me in the toureg i'll give yah a ride in the rado

sure man, but it better be soon, i think he might trade it in... get this, he wants 2 give in the v10 for a v8 or v6 lol wtf right??? he got the v10 for a nice price, but dont want a diseal ne more... b4 he had the toureg he had a carrado g60, i had it once he got the toureg ( he gave it 2 me) i did a couple bolt on's, that car was deff nto slow, but wasnt fast.. i enededu p selling it, i use 2 beat the heck outta accour v6's...

[mihalis]

Nice Kill man, I remember racing a 174hp Golf in my Corolla one time, he had a total of 5 pasengers and I had 2 [including drivers] I had him about a 1/4 of a car length up until the top of 2nd, then it was all over once I hit third, he started to really walk on me then...those things are pretty quick, so good job man.

[fedawg]

my corrado g60 turbo hangs dead even at 120mph with a modded e36 m3. i made 190whp , 215trq at the wheels....im also running 3.94 fianl drive, so we couldnt race past 130mph... we go to the same mechanic , i belive his mods were lightweight flywheel , exhaust , and intake

[COSMOSIS]

hehe...we don't think we know

nah but seriously the corrado vr6 is faster/lighter then the mk3...i ran a 14.4 w/ chip/intake/exhaust (aluminum flywheel, aluminum crank)...spinning in 1st,2nd, and 3rd...w/ cams and tires i'd like to see 13s...they aren't e46 fast but w/ some mods they can definitely hang w/ e36

Yo, I beleive your times and the Rado might be a hair quicker tham a MKIII, but it's not lighter. Why do you guys think that?

[Grk M Power]

my corrado g60 turbo hangs dead even at 120mph with a modded e36 m3. i made 190whp , 215trq at the wheels....im also running 3.94 fianl drive, so we couldnt race past 130mph... we go to the same mechanic , i belive his mods were lightweight flywheel , exhaust , and intake

u took ur super charger off, n put on a turbo???

[fedawg]

u took ur super charger off, n put on a turbo???

yes , turbo is superior in my opinion , if i had my SCer on and made the same whp , the M3 would have burned me on the highway

[Ice Rado]

Yo, I beleive your times and the Rado might be a hair quicker tham a MKIII, but it's not lighter. Why do you guys think that?

i'm not gonna say mine is a ton lighter...but its mos definitely lighter i can assure u that...here are some weights i found...but don't necessarily believe...btw i have canadian spec so mine doesn't have autobelts or kneebars...which add alot of weight
G60
90' 2660
91' 2558
92' 2675
VR6
92' 2800
93' 2810
94' 2852

its hard to say cuz a gti is said to be 2811...and i can't see a corrado weighing more...but nonetheless i know mine is lighter...only cuz i've removed alot of stuff...i think next time we hit the track we'll definitely be hittin the scales to find out the real story...NO one seems to really know

[EEEEeeee36]

Any idea if it was a MK3 or MK4?

MK3 has 172 HP stock, and a MK4 (24v) has 200 HP stock. Both are hard to get good gains from unless you give them boost. The current craze in the VW camp is the 1.8t.

A passat which is heavier than a GTI or Jetta can and will do a 14.7 in the 1/4 with a good driver, and only a simple APR, or Garret chip. I have been at import drags and watched MK4 GTI 1.8t's (with only a chip) get 14.5s down the strip. not too shabby for a front wheel drive german car.

I want a 6 Cylinder German car again, (had a VR6) I am after BMW for my fix though, they seem to produce good power from the factory, and can do quite a bit with what they have..

I wish I could have been able to listen to that race.. The VR6 and BMW M engines are my two favorite sounding in the current market.

Man, stay with a Bimmer. I had just sold my 2002 APR Stage III Passat in May.. I enjoy driving my stock 328i so much more!! You can just tell the car's were meant to drive! Even though my car had a lot of HP, there is a huge difference in the feel from FWD to RWD.. and my E36 is lighter than my Passat was by about 500lbs..

Don't worry, I shall turbo again...