B16 = Stock civic Si motor USDM from 99-00... available in JDM versions too. Considering they are rock solid motors with MANY MANY mods, I can easily believe that the built B16 whooped the M3s ass. Remember guys, 160 base HP motor on a 2000 lb car with modification can take out a 3000 lb M3 with a tuned up 240hp 325 motor (S50/S52). Not trying to diss M3s, I love them, just that they aren't exactly the same beast that europe produced and never sent over to us. You chose what you drive with just as much reason as the Honda owner chose his car. Honda has qualities that BMW doesn't have and vice versa.Originally Posted by il Paffuto Uno
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Dude, you have an E36. The interior is nothing to be proud of.Originally Posted by HellBilly
It's funny how you are tired of people obsessing over Hondas, yet you continue to read the threads that involve Hondas. Dat be stupid, yO
maybe cause i like reading kill/death stories? and it hard to escape it when everyone likes to talk about how fast you can make a honda. And i know my interior isnt the greatest, im talking more along the lines of the newer 3/5/6/7 series.Originally Posted by Andy
i dont really care dude, you like hondas, good for you, you can buld a honda to be faster than my stock E36? congrats your my f-ing hero. You get the gold star today.
What a douche. Why don't you just say nothing at all if you cant say something nice?Originally Posted by HellBilly
You could have left it with "Nice race", but you had to be captain b*tch and go off on honda's.
Personally I like every car (or at least dont bash any) because I am an automotive enthusiast. How about you pull your head out of you loose ass, and be a man about it.
My apologies to the original poster.
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dude, i did not bash hondas, you ignorant sh1t-for-brains.Originally Posted by accel junky
read what i write. Dont be all bitchy cause i voice my opinion, and if you dont like that, go to hell, Hitler.
I say what i want and im not afraid too because some assclown like you is going to come out of left feild and say "whaa whaa whaa why do you bash hondas you ignorant BMW owner"
I dont care HOW GOD DAMNED fast you make a Civic Hatch, the thing weighs less than 2300lbs, making it go fast doesnt impress me in the least. Its not a marvel of engineering. Its Power to weight ratio. and i call them a Tin can cause thats what it is. Ive been in Civics, and hatches, and thats what they feel like to me, a god damned tin can (hey look an opinion, you know what that is?)
What would i rather have? My Stock M3 or a 2000 hp Civic Hatch? Guess a-hole.
and to the original poster: nice race, and i apologize that this turned into this.
My friend has a 93 civic with a new b16 in it.
It's not really fast... It's faster then the stock engine, but it's still pretty
slow. That guy must of been build real good to beat you.
My friend has a 93 civic hatch with a jdm b16 in it with only a short ram intake n headers, no exhaust. he's running 14.5 in the quarter mile and i thought that was pretty good for his hatch. he takes out integra gsr's with fairly good mods to it. he's even taken out those mitsu evo ralli-art. so i respect those carefully built civics, but not those "ricers" with the big spoilers who think they can fly.
man hellbilly expresses an opinion and you rip into him. i didn't see anything bad about hondas in his post. you guys need to relax, and once again the talk of honda civics beating an M3 in a straight line. it's all a matter of purpose if all bimmer owners cared about was straight line speed there'd be tons of aftermarket mods meant for striaght line speed. there's a lot more emphasis on handling than 1/4 times.
[rant]Originally Posted by HellBilly
Very considerate of you to apologize.. Nobody should like a *honda*.. M3 is the pinnacle of engineering and the only car in the goddamn multiverse that is made for the twisties when comparing to american muscle and made for acceleration when compared to hondas. If both of those fail then at least it is a BMW, a make so superior to anything else in prestige or style or something else you make up. And best of all, YOU own one of these miracles! (or your bank, parents or company..) Sheeeeesh.
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Ahh, that helped.
Nice death, sounds like he had some serious work on the engine but more likely just the 160hp+nos and less weight than your ride. That's why he wouldn't let you see the engine bay, you'd have seen the nozzles. I have a 160+hp 2500lb car (winterbeater now) and there is no way it could hang with the M without either SC, turbo or nos and since you didn't hear either of the mechanical helpers..
My question is : Why didn't he pop the hood?
Unless their is something to hide, there is no reason why he should shy away from proving he is infact "all motor". If I was the owner of an N/A civic that just tore-up some M3, I would gladly pop my hood just to squash any accusations later.
I have seen some fast N/A civics that were gutted-out, but everyone of them will pop their hood to prove that it is all-motor. The only ones that don't are, like you said, "shady".
There is one guy in my local area who tears up cars with far better power/weight and he claims his civic hatch to be "all-motor". When asked to pop his hood he claims that he already popped it and "so&so" saw that there was nothing there. Something to hide is all I am gonna say. Many of us suspect this guy of running "gas" with his car.
Nitrous is the choice for shady individuals.
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